August 05, 2003

HP rips off The Dreamlife of Letters

I had just finished writing an email to the ubu list about bpNichol's line "All That Signifies Can Be Sold," which I was critical of, and then turned to Yahoo! to do a search, and what do I see...

This, for those of you not in the know, appears to my naive, perhaps self-interested eyes, as a rip-off of my Dreamlife of Letters. The colors, the recombinant aspect of the letters, the fades, etc. (Click "Refresh" to see it play again.)

My ubu post was the following:

That bpNichol quote always kind of annoyed me, actually, or I think it's a bit easy. It doesn't say anything about how much something is being "sold" for, or for how long it could be "sold." If something "sells" for a week or so, I hardly think of it as "sold" -- i.e. we all just sink back into the slime of artists for other artists. (And certainly practices that don't signify are not accounted, obviously.)

That's why people keep trying to resurrect forgotten modernists -- most recently in the new How2 -- as if, because they haven't been "sold" in a long time, they are fresh, and the mission isn't complete until said modernist can be "sold" again. I guess I am not sure whether Nichol is being a neo-Romantic in this quote: like with MacLluhan, there is the pith of the observation but I'm not sure of the affect.

Even if there is no "endgame," I think there has to be some sort of striving that can escape the fatalistic ironies of "All That Signifies Can Be Sold." That's like saying "All Who Born Boys Can Be Seedy Old Men" -- of course that's true, and it's much funnier and closer to sounding like an obscured truth than "All Who Are Born Boys Can Be A Good Parent" -- but do I want that (i.e. the former)?

But I do agree that the old "museum walls" idea of the white page and "official literature" lost its charge, oh, 20-25 years ago. All of these confrontations -- deflecting "absorption," "decisive" confrontations -- happen on a stage that only those already invested in the discourse (which itself is canonizing) can view.

My mother has no idea what the value of a book like "Day" is because she doesn't know who Duchamp or Cage were or cares. (BTW, I gave a copy of "Day" to my friend who is a Reuters journalist based out of Boston -- he liked it, but for reasons more peculiar to his hatred of the NY Times.) It's self-deception to think that the book has an egalitarian value accessible to all potential readers or consumers -- the kind of self-deception I'm afraid John Cage himself promoted, as if his chance-operations could side-step the sort of disciplines necessary to attain the states of spiritual nirvana his artistic practices are premised on achieving.

We have to admit, part of the reason something like "Day" works is because he think of it as an imposition on the canon -- and how the canon is supported, via the book trade -- and not just because it's so grossly exaggerated as a "writing" project. It's a book that stands on the shoulders of giants, I think, as does all of Kenny's work (and I think it was Newton who coined that phrase), but that doesn't preclude him becoming a giant himself.

Anyway, my two cents...

Posted by Brian Stefans at August 5, 2003 11:32 AM | TrackBack
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brian, your discomfit is painful, but also for another reason: you are in denial of context, n'cest pas? First, your Dreamlife of Letters, which I've taken in and am digesting, is only made more urgent by the HP ad. The latter is junkeyefood and only made me want to view your work again to clean the eyepalate, which it does admirably. Context is everything... bpNichol said that, and that's why it saddens one to see you misread him so. You refer to a "bpNichol quote"--but brian, there is no such thing as a "bpNichol quote." Your quotation is totally out of context, since within its original poem, it is full of an irony you are missing. You might ask Darren Wershler-Henry to set you straight on this, since Darren knows the bp oeuvre well. (You'll recall that I refer to Darren's acute eye in the penultimate essay of "See What You Think"). In any case, how sad to see you refer to bp as a "forgotten modernist." Had he not died young, he'd be younger today than Ron Silliman and a billion others. Most importantly, your own work is deprived of deeper resonance when you stiff your sweetest admirer (and bp, in cloud-heaven I assure you, IS your true admirer. If you don't believe me, read The Martyrology again on the Coach House website and you'll see that he predicts and tenderly acknowledges you in advance.). Onward, I's wide open.


Posted by: david rosenberg at August 11, 2003 11:02 PM

You're actually reading my quote out of context as well, which is of course pardonable because I didn't give it. This is actually a reply to something Darren wrote on the ubu list, so it's spottily written and not a complete statement.

I wasn't referring to bpNichol as a "forgotten modernist" -- I'm certainly well aware that Toronto hasn't forgotten bpNichol. In fact, I was just at the Coach House (on bpNichol Lane, as you know) three weeks ago and even gave the poem on the street a quick reread. I've often referred to the writings of the TRG as among the most useful and important works for young "cyber" poets to read these days.

I'm referring to other writers who seem to be resurrected for some other purpose that is often beyond me -- but even so, who am I to say who is a good poet or not, perhaps there is a sincere interest in poet X's work?

I just suspect some of the attention paid to certain "forgotten" figures has something to do with filling in a few holes in a Ph.D. and I fear this taking the part for the whole leaves us with neither a whole -- forgotten -- nor a very good part.

Certainly good poets like Tolson and Loy have benefitted by this very mechanism -- perhaps not yet enough -- and I'd love myself to discover a new poet from the period who we haven't yet read in full -- just not sure there's much more out there (but I'm a pessimist about a lot of things).

BTW, I don't refer to writers born after, say, Charles Olson as "modernist." I'm pretty conservative in meaning poets generally writing before the "Great War" and between the wars, but that's just me.

I even mention that "I am not even sure whether bpNichol is being neo-Romantic..." etc. -- i.e. I don't really know his context. Nichol can have a way of sounding a little like Steve McCaffery - using the semiotics language - but then twisting it in a way that is entirely idiosyncratic (and you're probably aware that there is, or was, something like a cult status around him). But Darren has used this quote, entirely isolated, a few times in the course of arguments and so I took him up on ths most recent moment.

Anyway, I'm glad beeps is smiling down on me since we share 4 letters in our nickname -- I am often referred to as beeks.

Posted by: Mr. Arras at August 11, 2003 11:55 PM

Good of you to help restore some context. Let's keep going and I think you'll see that there are two crucial issues that emerge. First, I'm glad you're reading TRG though puzzled at the comment, "Nichol can have a way of sounding a little like Steve McCaffery." One wonderful thing about TRG is that you can always tell bp from Steve--even though it sometimes doesn't matter. But often it does, crucially. The "cult" around bp in Canada is negligible, compared, say, to the cult around Ted Berrigan, which in the end ammounts to what? How and by whom the work is read--not flogged, to echo your alleged bp quote (which is actually from The Martyrology and re-echoes within the poem)--is what counts. And what counts today is that you and others who should be reading it OUTSIDE Canada, are not reading The Martyrology. I was not being clever about bp reading your work--not the "smiling down from heaven" cliche--but very specific. Look at Book 5, in which there are at least two sections which predict and comment upon your "Dreamlife of Letters." I'll look them up for you now: Chain 4 and Chains 10-11. But the other "Chains" provide further context and lead to my ultimate point: it's the TOTALITY of Nichol's vision & oeuvre that is barely yet comprehended. That it is still way out front is what I argue in "The Prophetic Poet of the Twentieth Century" within the book, "See What You Think." It's an argument about getting not simply off the page, as you reiterate, but behind it. It's precisely because you've bought the disguise of bp as a concrete or experimental poet that I want to push you a little further to consider the post-textuality of the selves-within-Self he projected. These are deathless i's--and the sweetness of "bpNichol Lane" is that it is only another disguise from which bp has moved on. The whole plan is there in The Martyrology.

Second, I enjoyed scanning the recent exchanges between you and Darren. Although Darren has a grasp of bp's totality, I think he forgets that most non-Canadian North Americans do not. My point here is that had you grasped it, you would not have expressed anxiety about the HP ad; rather, it would fortify you. Because bp still is teaching us that originality lies not in the novelty of form but in the novelty of the creator. And you, in the totality of your blogging & editing & lyrics (sic) & criticism & formal inventiveness--you may be a novelty yourself that bears watching, as bp watched hisself continually.

Posted by: david rosenberg at August 12, 2003 08:21 PM

I wasn't anxious at all about the HP ad -- if anything, I took it as a sign that I had done something original -- or at least idiosyncratic --in the Dreamlife work.

Posted by: Mr. Arras at August 13, 2003 12:47 PM

Yes, but you're ignoring the point, which is that you did not do something "original--or at least idiosyncratic" in Dreamlife. What you did was re-open some paths, especially the one to Book of 5 of The Martyrology. Even Jeff Derksen, who you just reviewed so acutely, could probably tell you that. That makes you a translator. And the discourse about what that means might be more interesting than originality.

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